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Post by lillian on Dec 18, 2010 21:16:42 GMT -5
I am crazy.  It came about because a certain other place I used to visit became a place where I didn't want to spend time anymore. Everyone I knew well had left and then it just wasn't working for me anymore. There was really nothing wrong with the people there, aside from one or two, but I had a tiff with a poster there and that was the catalyst I needed to go for good. Eclipse and mercury retro probably helped move it along too. I have another board where I go to discuss astrology in a forum environment, but it's not as cozy as that other place. It's not that the other place is better, it's not, but I miss my peeps! I like a smaller community because it's cozy and you get to know the people. The other place where I still post is just too large for that. People think the place I left is addictive, but it's not, really. It's not that site, it's the PEOPLE that post there -- and they're mostly all gone with nowhere else small enough to have a camaraderie, so I made this site. If they all come here that would be nice --We can all reunite. If not, that's ok too -- at least I attempted to get us together again. I looked at the chart for this site and it looks like it can be a lot of fun. There's a huge stellium in the 5th house -- mercury, nn, sun, mars, and pluto! Venus is angular. Mercury rx can show everyone reuniting from the old site. So can SN in the 11th -- showing old acquaintances getting together in an online (11th) forum. Of course eris is trine the AC by one degree. ;D With all that 5th house activity I would expect a lot of fun, creativity and talk about love, which if the old people came back, would be accurate. |
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Post by anelakini on Dec 18, 2010 23:33:21 GMT -5
I just replied to you on your blog, and noticed this on the right-hand side when looking for an email address.  I registered, because I agree with what you said about the other place: it's the *people* that made it what it was/what it is. I can pass this link along to some at Facebook. |
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Post by lillian on Dec 18, 2010 23:40:43 GMT -5
I I registered, because I agree with what you said about the other place: it's the *people* that made it what it was/what it is. I can pass this link along to some at Facebook. Totally! It's not the pink background and no search and no PM's that make it great, it's the people. He doesn't see that and thinks everyone just likes it there so much.  You can't even PM there or do anything. You can't even say non-offensive cuss words. People can cuss here as long as it's not excessive. I'd LOVE it if you could pass it along it on FB. I have no way of getting in touch with anyone.  PS -- What was your name on the other board...unless you don't want to say. You could always PM me. Eta: Never mind I see who you are now from my blog. |
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Post by anelakini on Dec 18, 2010 23:44:39 GMT -5
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Post by lillian on Dec 18, 2010 23:49:16 GMT -5
I didn't know you were accused of something. I really missed that whole saga. When I asked I never got an explanation even though he was spamming the board with vitriol.
Which group?
Yeah, send it to anyone you have.
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Post by anelakini on Dec 19, 2010 0:10:46 GMT -5
I passed it along. |
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Post by lillian on Dec 19, 2010 0:13:30 GMT -5
Yay!
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Post by cerdwen on Dec 19, 2010 11:07:51 GMT -5
I just had to come here, as you created that forum on my birthday, apparently.
Besides I completely agree with everything you said about the other place.
It`s the people, not the place.
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Post by lillian on Dec 19, 2010 16:39:41 GMT -5
It''s your b-day?! Happy Birthday!! I don't know who you were on the other board. I don't know what people want to do about that. There's PM on here or people can remain anon if they want. You have a huge stellium in your SR chart this year. Which house does it fall? People will come back into your life most likely since mercury is rx and it takes more power because it's anaretic. I won't know much more without seeing the chart. It's definitely the people and not the place.  I just realized this is the 2nd website I've created out of being angry and fed up. The first one was my blog because I got tired of waiting for the Weekly Weather. Now this. What can I say? Anger motivates me. I have mars angular and at the aries point! I should look at my SR for this year because I wonder if I'll see anything reflecting this pioneering energy. I know I have my AC conjunct the GC, ruler Jupiter in the 3rd conjunct Uranus. Maybe that's it.... |
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Post by cerdwen on Dec 20, 2010 6:36:57 GMT -5
"It''s your b-day?! Happy Birthday!!" Thank you. "I don't know who you were on the other board." I was DD / Darkdreamer at that "other place". I have a big Stellium in Sagittarius in the 1st house (Sun, Mercury, Venus, Neptune, NN), so I`m not so good in hiding away (though that Neptune on the ASC sometimes helps with that). "You have a huge stellium in your SR chart this year. Which house does it fall? " it falls in my 1st house in the natal. In the SR it is in the 4th house with Sun being in 3rd house. In the precessed SR it is in the 10th house with Sun being in 9th house. "People will come back into your life most likely since mercury is rx and it takes more power because it's anaretic." This would make sense, especially as Mercury rules my natal DESC (and my precessed SR DESC) and rules my (not-precessed) SR ASC. " I won't know much more without seeing the chart. " I will put it up when I come home. "It's definitely the people and not the place. " Yes, exactly. " just realized this is the 2nd website I've created out of being angry and fed up." Angel fuels you. It was the same with me. I was being quite dissatisfied there for a while, but it was not enough to make me gert active. And then there was this moment when it just snapped. The one thing that was too much, and made me go saying: "Enough." " have mars angular and at the aries point!" Wow! Strong Mars. I have Mars in Sagittarius conjunct ASC, but from 12th house and it is conjunct (5 degrees) Neptune and NN. " I know I have my AC conjunct the GC, ruler Jupiter in the 3rd conjunct Uranus." Definitely very fitting with creating your own forum. I like the Jupiter/Uranus-conjunction, it`s like a mega boost in ideas and innovation and FREEDOM and doing "your own thing". And in the 3rd house it is all about communications. And Uranus connected to 3rd house always makes me think of electronic communication, like a forum in the internet. Seems like your ASC is pretty close to my Sun-Mercury-conjunction on 25-26 Sagittarius then. |
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Post by lillian on Dec 20, 2010 15:35:19 GMT -5
Hi, I want to respond but I am short on time and don't want to rush it. I have to run out for an appointment. I will respond later tonight when I can devote more time. |
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Post by lillian on Dec 20, 2010 21:06:25 GMT -5
DD, Hi!
I am on the fence when it comes to regular vs precessed SR's. I've looked back and for ME, the regular fits more. Some people swear by precessed though. I think you need to go back and compare past years. I did that and the regular ones fit with what happened more.
Let me know how yours goes, which you fins more accurate.
4th house would show deep changes on an internal level. You may change the way you think radically. With all your angles anaretic I think you will have big changes ahead. One of them will change thereby changing the others. I still feel like you'll meet someone.
You could also change jobs, which makes you meet someone or change residence, having the same effect.
I'll get a better idea when I see the chart.
We'll have to compare notes re: the GC this year.
It's interesting you wrote "angel" and not "anger..."
But yes, anger fuels me and I've changed how I deal with it. I think that's in big part from my pluto transits I had over the past 5-10 years. I also have t. Plu on my mercury now, which would show that. I take quick and decisive action, which is what the higher manifestation of pluto does.
Your mars shows you need to use it as a first house mars more. You need to move it out of the 12th house, emotionally, and become more assertive. Not aggressive, but assertive. Your mars is more powerful than you probably know since it's angular. My mars is also conjunct neptune (and jupiter) within one degree. We must've been born around the same time...possibly.
Since your sr stellium falls into your 1st in natal it's a year to take back your power and to focus on yourself. It's made more powerful (your SR) in that it takes it back to your natal stellium house.
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Post by cerdwen on Dec 21, 2010 2:19:49 GMT -5
"I am on the fence when it comes to regular vs precessed SR's."
Yes, same here.
"I think you need to go back and compare past years."
Actually I already did. I posted it on the group.
What do you think?
1990:
my spiritual path began, strong spiritual experiences, very happy year, living
on a dream (or a spiritual truth?). Discovered my love for musicals. First
encounter with (the perception of) a soulmate.
Normal SR:
Moon in 12th house conjunct ASC (4 degrees)
Mars conjunct IC
precessed SR:
Valentine widely conjunct ASC
Venus conjunct IC
1992:
My "Dark night of the soul", or as I called this year for some time: The year
I`ve died.
Complete emotional and spiritual breakdown. Loss of everything I believed in
until then, especially in relation to soulmates / twinsouls, astrology etc.
Turned my back on anything that had to do with astrology, musical, spiritual
beliefs. Complete disillusionment.
This year shook the very foundations of my soul, and I had to slowly rebuild
myself after this.
normal SR:
Neptune conjunct ASC
Pluto conjunct MC
precessed SR:
Mars conjunct DESC
Juno conjunct MC
Chiron conjunct IC
2002:
first trip on my own to Paris, met the man I had believed to be my soulmate some
years ago. It was surreal, real and kinda funny. lol
WAs in pretty good mood the first three months, and then in april a friend of
mine died in a motorcycle crash.
normal SR:
no angular planets - this is not possible! Not during THAT year. lol
precessed SR:
Juno conjunct MC
Mars conjunct IC
2005:
Got my first job - funnily in the very city I have been born in!
Saw "Closer" with Jude Law, which somehow brought him to my awareness. That film
and the dreams.
solar return:
Ceres conjunct DESC
Lilith conjunct IC
no planets on MC, which is strange, given that I was getting my first job.
precessed solar return:
Eros conjunct ASC. lol
Moon exactly conjunct DESC
Mercury conjunct IC (Mercury rules the MC, so my job - MC, led me to my roots,
my birthplace - IC, and the job of course involves talking a lot and dealing
with kids)
2009:
got to London to see "Hamlet" live. It was a great challenge for me to go there
on my own. And some suprising things happened. I think I mentioned it somewhere.
Solar Return:
Mercury conjunct MC
precessed Return:
Saturn widely conjunct ASC
Sun-Mars-Psyche-conjunction on IC
Vertex widely conjunct DESC (5 degrees)
Valentine exactly conjunct MC on 24 Gemini, which means it was in my 7th house
and opposing my Sun and DESC-ruler; also at the time I was in London, Tr Venus
was on 24 Gemini. ROFL
1997:
In january this year my Granddad was having a stroke, which put him into a
wheelchair (he died the year after that). It changed everything. Put an end to
my "childhood" (though technically I was already 22 years old).
WE rebuilt our house so he could move in with us.
It was a very hard traumatic time.
normal Solar Return:
Uranus conjunct MC
precessed SR:
Venus-Pluto-conjunction close to IC (4 and 7 degrees)
MC EXACT on Algol
The year he died:
normal SR:
Jupiter conjunct DESC
precessed SR:
Chiron conjunct ASC
"I still feel like you'll meet someone. "
I am definitely all for this idea!
"You could also change jobs, which makes you meet someone or change residence, having the same effect."
Hmm, I don`t want to change my job.
But the change of residence has already happened. I moved in august of this year, and it is just now that I really feel settled in here.
"We'll have to compare notes re: the GC this year."
Yes, definitely.
"It's interesting you wrote "angel" and not "anger..."
LOL Must have been a Freudian Slip. Interstingly asteroid Angel is exactly conjunct my ASC on 7 Sagittarius.
"I also have t. Plu on my mercury now, which would show that. I take quick and decisive action, which is what the higher manifestation of pluto does."
When Tr Pluto was conjunct my Mercury I somhow got a very "authoritative voice", which was not a bad thing, seeing I am a teacher.
I was a bit too "soft" before that I think.
"Your mars shows you need to use it as a first house mars more. You need to move it out of the 12th house, emotionally, and become more assertive. Not aggressive, but assertive."
Yes. Actually I finally got a treatment of my iron deficiency last year. It had fallen to a level of 9 I think. Well, always knew my iron was low, but never did anything about it.
Anyway, at the end of the treatment it had risen pretty high. I got to have it checked next year to see how much it has fallen again. But right now I don´t feel tired at all. Before that I was tired all the time, though I thought that was normal. lol
I don´t feel like I am lacking iron presently.
But I didn`t only take the medication, the low level of iron in my blood also showed me that I needed to be more assertive on a psychological level. So I did.
Got into a fight with my mum concerning grown up children and the respecting of boundaries. Before I would always evade discussions like that and just withdraw and let time pass, but since I moved into an appartment next to my parents, it was important to "draw a line". though I knew I was hurting my mum with it, as everything she did was out of good intentions.
Gave us the chance to deal with the issue, which we wouldn´t have been able to, if I hadn`t put down my foot.
"My mars is also conjunct neptune (and jupiter) within one degree. We must've been born around the same time...possibly. "
My Mars-Neptune-conjunction is widish at 5 degrees.
jupiter is widely square Mars and tightly square Neptune.
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Post by lillian on Dec 21, 2010 21:52:13 GMT -5
In a lot of them I think your regular sr was dead on, but in a few (not as many) your precessed was more accurate. I think the angles are VERY important but the planets in the houses can be very telling too and are not to be discounted. A lot of major years for me had nothing ON the angle, but the houses were very accurate with planetary activity.
I hope I'm right about you meeting someone! What's your progressed doing? Anything special?
N. angel is square my venus, if I remember right. I like that asteroid, but I don't know how accurate it is in play.
Moving was an example of how if one of the angles changes, all usually will in some way.
So far, I am liking pluto conjunct mercury. I didn't like any other pluto transit. Maybe I'm just used to them now...? You must've also gone through the ringer with your stellium, huh? It does seem to make you more able to own power (the merc/plu aspect does). I think the other planets it hit for me were to emotional and that made it hard. Mercury is not as deep as moon or venus imo. Not for ME, anyway. But I shouldn't speak too soon, because it's just starting its transit for me. At least I am aware of this transit. I didn't know anything about transits when I had my other pluto ones and I think that made it harder. I was so unprepared.
It sounds like you already have started to own your mars. That's good.
I'm glad you're better with the anemia!
Oh, we must be born farther apart. My mars/nep./jup is a very tight stellium -- all within 1 degree.
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Post by cerdwen on Dec 24, 2010 7:15:15 GMT -5
"In a lot of them I think your regular sr was dead on, but in a few (not as many) your precessed was more accurate."
Yes, I think so, too.
I DO have a slight problem with the underlying theory though; why using sidereal for the precession, but then switch back to tropical?
Wouldn`t it make more sense then to stick to sidereal, if we want to do the precessed charts?
" I think the angles are VERY important but the planets in the houses can be very telling too and are not to be discounted. A lot of major years for me had nothing ON the angle, but the houses were very accurate with planetary activity. "
Yes, I think that maybe many things can be explained either by houseplacement or by the involvement of houserulers.
For example, when Tr Pluto was conjunct my Mars, my Granddad had the stroke, and through this and his moving in and our family taking care of him, the whole family-life changed, including the house itself (we were building an additional part to the house, so there would be enough place. Ironically this is the part I am living in now. We remodelled it once again and made it a separate unit from the rest of the house, so I can use it. The whole thing would have been too big for my parents alone.
Anyway, Mars rules my 4th house, so this consequence made sense in the light that Tr Pluto was conjunct my 4th house ruler.
At least if we use Placidus houses. In equal it would have been Tr Pluto conjunct 5th house ruler.
"I hope I'm right about you meeting someone!"
I hope so, too.
" What's your progressed doing? Anything special?"
Actually I WAS having special progressions, but they came and now are fading again.
Last year I was having pr ASC conjunct Venus (it is 1 degree separating by now).
For many years I was having pr Mercury conjunct pr Venus conjunct pr Antivertex, for some years it was on my natal Moon,
Mercury rules my 7th house, Venus my 5th and Moon my 8th house.
Pr Mercury on 21.10 Aquarius is still conjunct pr Venus on 21.16 Aquarius), but separating.
Pr Vertex is on 19.55 Leo.
Since Mercury and Venus are moving more quickly, this is also a separating one.
Pr Valentine is moving into a conjunction to my natal NN. (orb: 0°10 approaching), but I don`t know how much emphasis to place onto an asteroid.
Pr Sun was squaring my Uranus last year at the same time as Tr Uranus was squaring my Uranus, too. It was at the time I went to London on my own and saw jUde Law as Hamlet. Definitely something out of the ordinary. lol
Pr Jupiter on 17.29 Pisces was conjunct my natal Juno on 16.58 Pisces, but again it is separating.
Pr ASC opn 7.04 Cap is in a separating conjunction to natal Venus on 6.07 Cap.
Pr Juno on 2.42 Aries is moving to conjunct my IC on 4.58 before long, which will happen in 4 years (when Pr Juno also sextiles pr Sun).
Pr Mars is currently approaching an exact conjunction to my Sun/Venus-mp, but again I am unsure how much importance a midpoint picture really has.
Pr Moon will be entering my natal 7th house before long and will be conjunct natal DESC as well as natal SN and after that Karma, but will also be opposing Neptune, just as it is conjunct SN (exact Neptune/Nn-conjunction in natal).
All in all it seems that the most promising constellations have already passed, except for progressed Moon in 7th house (it has been in 6th house for quite some time and I did not like it there one bit).
Funnily though in 2008 I actually met someone. Not in a romantic sense. He is a musical actor and he has got a girlfriend as far as I know, but for some reason I cannot explain I felt propelled to talk to him, and we had a weird little nice chat, with some hard to pin down energy to it, but it really was nothing more than that.
I was very surprised that he greeted me so friendly when I met him again this year in a tavern, where he was having a very small concert, and I met him on the stairs in the back. He looked at me as if he recognized me, which is definitely impossible I think.
But he is a great entertainer and a nice easy going guy.
Anyway when we had that little chat we didn`t have really much going on in our progressions except these:
his pr Venus trine my Uranus 0°26 approaching
his pr Psyche conjunct my pr Psyche 0°59
my pr Psyche conjunct his natal Eros 0°21 approaching
Additionally,
I was having pr Mercury conjunct pr Venus by 0°02
pr Mercury conjunct pr Antivertex 0°11
pr Venus conjunct pr Antivertex 0°09
pr Antivertex conjunct natal Moon 0°46
he was having pr Sun conjunct natal Venus by an orb of 0°00 (I looked it up; this was that exact in a timewindow of appr. 10 days. lol)
For both of us pr Vertex was aspecting natal 8th house ruler interestingly.
his pr Vertex conjunct his Pluto, his 8th house ruler:1°05 a
my pr Vertex oppospite my Moon, my 8th house ruler: 0°46 s
Funnily my Moon is widely trine his Pluto
But that was really the thing that came closest to meeting someone. Pretty sad, isn`t it? ;D
And yes, Pluto has put me through the ringer, you are right. But actually for the most part I liked it.
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You can't even PM there or do anything. You can't even say non-offensive cuss words. People can cuss here as long as it's not excessive. 
